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Magic_Muffin
Afternoon, how goes it in HW? Had an explore of it on Wiki and didn't find any earthshatteringly wow facts but there is an interesting list of "residents past and present"...lol As for Brakes, worth a try although their tracks are usually very "blink and miss" lightening speed. Not that one can blink with ears...not sure there is an aural equivalent of blinking...Anyhow! Did you catch Blur on Glasto coverage? What thinkest you? :)
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s_libretto
green park is on that line too ... i just went to green park tonight. Other stations include Victoria, Bond Street and Marble Arch ... for your consideration.
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s_libretto
i can assure you neil was better! Oh and AC/DC was on the friday and they were brilliant too. Springsteen is always the best though ... recorded the Glasto set for later reference.
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s_libretto
nein, as in the german version of no. she won't be seeing albarn anytime soon, let alone marrying him.
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samsaunders
Yes, I spent four years in Canterbury in the days when it was cool ... however. Have a look at a trip north next May when Leeds has a weekend of fun called Live At Leeds - the best of the local stuff plus some others. See [url=http://www.last.fm/event/927269]this year's stuff here[/url]
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Magic_Muffin
mmm...violent femmes - i do like them :) Do you like Brakes too? I think there is a certainly blusey overlap there. Like Velvet Underground too but will confess to little experience of them beyond the obvious stuff. As for MBV, etc yes, I'm slowly getting into them because I rather like The Radio Dept. and also Kevin Shields individual work (which I find hard to separate out from Radio Dept. even though they're not related). I like that fuzzy, scuzzy noise but it's got to have melody to it. I'm also getting to know bits of Jesus and The Mary chain too but that's probably my limit of where noise overtakes melody. I tend to prefer vocals I can hear clearly like Maximo Park otherwise i think what's the point of having them on the record if no one can make them out, etc? High Wycombe, can't say have much concept of the area - do you have a football team that wanders? lol Is there some historical connection to Dick Turpin or something there? :)
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Magic_Muffin
What a good mate you've got! hee hee yes, just keep remembering the birthday and christmas cards, etc ;) hee hee Cheers muchly for the add too! Hmm, I'm not really that into Twee/Shoegaze myself (other half is though so am accustomed to Sarah Records output, etc.) - have to be in the right mood for Camera Obscura otherwise her vocals just got right through my head! hee hee Investigating Scottish stuff as said, discovered Lord Cutglass from the radio who is an ex Delgardos guy which is another old act I need to investigate like Mull Historical Society too! hee hee There is always something new to discover. Also check out Bricolage if you like Field Music/ Franz Ferdinand type stuff. I've a soft spot for North East bands so I think that's why my explorations have headed over the border as it's similar but also diverse stuff up there :) Whereabouts are you? Have I asked that? I'm in West Yorkshire, well Bradford so inhabit Leeds, musically speaking..lol
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Magic_Muffin
Ah Bang on The Door :) I even have an (unused) Spider rucksack. It was an unexpected present which I do like but would never use as it's a bit "emo" for me to have a Spider rucksack at 28 so I'm too old! hee hee What lovely chums you have giving you dibs on what I assume was the Blur tickets? jammy indeed and hope they're extra brilliant for you :) I discovered my old "Girls & Boys" t-shirt at my parents the other week. I've brought it home to wear now it's fashionable again! hee hee GHTGirl are a spin off of B&S. The cd has a story of a girl that essentially has a mental breakdown and the songs are various bits of her story told from different people's perspectives. Neil Hannon is on one of them too :) I'm getting really into Scottish music at the moment - Malcolm Middleton, etc. Have you tried Camera Obscura? Quite B&S but female vocals, I think they're ok. Let's Get Out Of This Country is the best album I think. :)
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Magic_Muffin
Yup, I'm not really one for teddy bears and that sort of thing but in my past, I did casually build a small collection of soft toy dinosaurs and spiders. I like spiders of the soft toy variety, can't say i've ever had the urge to own a real one! I used to like the Bang On The Door stuff because they had slugs, spiders, etc which made a nice change from usual "fwuffy wuffy" animal fayre! I like your name, you're right, it does sit well on here :) The fairy is Mavis Cruet from Willo The Wisp - a favourite childhood programme! Do you listen to 6Music ever? From looking at your scrobbles, I think you'd enjoy their stuff if you're not already familiar. Jammy you seeing Blur! Been trying to catch Graham Coxon and Florence & The Machine so shall try again post-festivals! :) What are your picks of Reading? Also, what do you think of God Help The Girl? :)
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Magic_Muffin
Hello there, I saw your name floating about on here somewhere and I really liked it (having a collection of fluffy (toy) spiders myself) and also your profile pic is marvellous too! So definitely extra bonus points to you on top of your recent listening - Violent Femmes, Goldfrapp and B&S - marvellous :)
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s_libretto
yeah i had 2 very drunk girls beside me shouting, screaming and giggling ... it made me not want to be around the kol fanbase again, one of them was reaaaaaaaally bad. Oh and i made 120 off the last 2 tickets ... i only have 1 album on cd and another couple of tracks. Thing he's too inconsistent to own a few albums of. he said JD was his favourite band of all time and that performing new dawn fades with NO was one of the best moments of his life so yeah.
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s_libretto
Alright then, doesn't matter either way really. Sure you'll see KOL at some other festival down the line seeing as they love britain ... and well i get tickets to everything. I finished selling off all my KOL tickets today btw, so success on that front. Play is a great album really, there was a reason everything was sold to commercials - but if you just throw Porcelain on you realise he is a pretty good artist. What i liked was that he actually PLAYED the songs ... and did a JD cover too. And don't disturb me ... i'm fragile as it is :(
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s_libretto
Gigs were good actually, firstly KOL ... i was miffed at my ability to get tickets. Look up a seating plan of the o2 arena now and look for Block 112, that's where i was ... and i bought that ticket on ticketmaster 4 hours before KOL came on. Glasvegas were shit, just like they were last time (it was the same bill as the KOL show in August last year ... just a bigger venue) ... KOL soon followed and played a pretty good set, they're good live but this is my finale to them - i shall see FNM at reading because although the music is decent. The new fans are cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuunts. Simple as. Moby was yesterday and i didn't really know what to expect but i was a big fan 10 years back when he struck gold on with Play. But he was pretty fucking awesome too, makes you realise that although he's an extremely boring person he does have an array of tunes to his name. And the best way to sum me up is like a cocoon.
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well i've been out occasionally, gigs or driving. running sometimes too because i'm becoming a fat alcoholic bastard, so that would explain why ... oh and the fact that my net cuts out too regularly for me to actually bother with msn messenger. And well i generally cba to respond to shouts nowadays either ... so yes i'm a lazy fuck. I guess that means i'm just the same as i always have been ... how about you?
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Cacophonaut
Shit, my brother just hacked my lastfm. Did you see the "I want penis comment"? The bastard.
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Cacophonaut
I dont have a voice, I have a man who holds up placards with phrases on and shouts "SAY THIS!!"
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"Best song about alcohol induced spousal murder with a bit of african style drumming that mentions knitted jumpers and stuff EVER." Lulz :P I certainly agree! Some good stuff in your charts, particularly the top band!
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Cacophonaut
You should read the articles I posted, I think they explain it far more eloquently than I can. The last one is particularly good.
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Cacophonaut
And you're right about anarchy. I think the most important development is that the bands are getting a say, and the idea is getting popularised that downloading shouldn't be illegal, that the big labels are not to be trusted. The public hate them now and that will be their downfall. All it will take is a movement to remove or change intellectual copyright by someone with a little political muscle, and all of a sudden the revolution is here. This is the Sierra Meastra for music, once that is taken, downloading will be legal and guys like The Pirate Bay and OiNK will be the next big labels, (What.CD or Waffles are my current favorites in that particular race) and the face of the industry will change forever.
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Cacophonaut
As it is, people feel a little cheated paying £10+ for an album, and are therefore only going to buy things they are sure are good, which is why it is so hard to market and distribute new artists. People aren't willing to blow their money on a band they've never heard of, but downloading makes hearing those bands a possibility (one originally offered by radio until it was conglomerated to the hilt, now all you hear on radio are the songs you heard on the radio last week) and its free. Illegal is doing them a favour, its marketing their bands for them, and because they don't have control of it and don't understand it they want to stop it? You aren't going to pay for a band you've never heard of, but you may well download the album, and if you like it, you are far more likely to buy it than you were before. The difference is you cant float an album on a single or two, because the whole album is available free, and if its a pile of shite, nobody is going to want it. You get me?
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Cacophonaut
I think that once the industry learns (or is forced) to relax its attitude to "illegal" downloading as something outside its complete control but still under its influence, CD's sales will increase, as will the general public consumption of music. It has been proved in every historical precedent, so it is a logical position to take. In the future, CD's will be cheaper (say £3 - £5, about the same as a cinema ticket) and will be beefed up with bigger, better booklets and come with promotional campaigns to encourage people to start buying them again. New albums now are about £10 - £13, and I'm sure you don't go shopping and buy a shitload of CD's, but I bet you would if they were all £3, right? Most people would, £3 is a train ticket, its nothing. I think lower prices actually makes the product not less valuable but more, since the consumer gets a sense of a "good deal" and feels like what they've gotten is worth more than they paid for it.
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Cacophonaut
Yeah I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority, most people I know who are in bands have the archaic idea that you have to get signed before you can produce your own songs probably, and quite frankly this is stupid. I think youre wrong about Radiohead being the only band that can get away with that sort of thing, Nine Inch Nails have been doing it for ages, as have Bomb the Music Industry (very DIY ska-punk) but I dont think, unlike many, that physical formats will ever die. Remember that everyone said radio was the death of records, and VHS was the death of the cinema. It doesn't work out like that, and the only reason it is right now is because the industry has taken a defensive stance against developments like the internet where in the past they (eventually) embraced radio, as did the film industry with VHS, and both of these have actually caused increases in music and box-office film sales. Film sales themselves have actually increased due to downloading.
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And I think labels will still exist, just in s different capacity to how they do now. I think the days of BIG BUSINESS in music is over, and there isn't going to be a much money in it as there used to be. The age of the rockstar is coming to an end, thankfully. What I think this leaves a gap for is a more dynamic, more independent label(s) to take advantage of the internet to its fullest capacity, using it to get their artists known. I could cite many examples of bands who have achieved massive commercial success through nothing but the internet. The Arctic Monkeys had a No.1 single when they were still unsigned, and Enter Shikari are still unsigned and have had a top 40 album, as have Arcade Fire, who are on an indie label signed to an M&D (marketing and distribution) deal. The big companies are not integral to mainstream success anymore, and I think the M&D deal is going to be very, very popular once the shit hits the fan with regards to the legality of downloading. Which it will.
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Cacophonaut
And actually my evnisioning of the future of the music industry involves labels to a large degree. I don't expect to see bands selling their music online because I think that is counterproductive, and nor do I think CD's or any other physical medium will ever be rendered obsolete by a nonphysical one, because when people buy something they like to have a product, its feels secure, it cant be deleted, and you get all the nice packaging and booklets. What I think is going to happen is intellectual copyright law will be revised or removed and illegal downloads will become legal, the norm will be to give away music online and sell it in physical mediums. The only way the physical mediums can survive is if they are reduced in price dramatically. The thing people need to grasp is that internet based music is just radio, and radio is free, so why shouldn't the internet be? Downloading is just a marketing tool, just like radio, only you can choose. Thats the important bit.
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Cacophonaut
Well, you say that someone has to pay the studio costs, but I'm a songwriter and I recently spent about £1500 on some home recording gear (an Apple Macbook and Pro Tools 8, plus a couple of mics) and I'm prfectly willing to spend all my money on this shit in the future, but I think perhaps I'm in the minority.
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Cacophonaut
Thanks. I'm trying to make a difference I guess, which most people will tell you is massively pointless because everyone I tell to stop buying CD's says they don't actually care about the industry or the artists that supply it or even their own rights. I don't get that, but then again most of the people I have talked to like Coldplay and other bland radio-product so you can expect them not to be terribly passionate about anything. Especially music.
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s_libretto
well i was running out of time i suppose so i just bullshitted a lot ... looked at the clock and decided whether to end that question there and move on ... or not.
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i'm having an hour of distractions then i'll go back to the reading ... do it till an early hour ,... sleep in and read some more.
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I did go again with my mum, we had seats which were akin to the position we were in by the pillar ... except you could see them ... and i'm going to revise my subjects starting from tomorrow, needs must!
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s_libretto
i missed that train by 3 minutes because i went to charing instead of london bridge so we could have stayed for london ... provided i switched at camden or euston. meh, oh well i should be revising now ...
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s_libretto
fine by me, i'll ever dress up in a suit so i am portrayed as a greedy fat cat banker. You know for extra insurance in keeping mah monies.
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s_libretto
better get your finances in order woman! Morrissey = 30. Reading = much ... much more.
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ah bit it's billed as them. The Jam reformation led to From the Jam .. so good on them. All people want to see is Weller. And he's dying because he cancelled tonight like he always does, doctors are told to tell him to rest and he does accordingly. Shame, his setlist has more smiths songs in it. Oh and The Good, the Bad and The Ugly.
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ah it was 100% when i said it. You know they've reformed now? Playing some love music hate racism thing with N Dubz and Reverend and the Makers... OH WHAT A FALL FROM GRACE! Oh and nothing's been happening, Morrissey's dying again so all things are in order. Here i sit listening to some spaghetti western soundtrack music, awesome.
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