Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

chuyhn 说：

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chocobooo 说：

I'm surprised that no Brazilians are here spaming with "come to Brazil pls!"

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deadite_ 说：

A lot of great metal is classically inspired. I don't think any metal artist thinks they're a better composer than the greats of classical. Still, I love metal, and I love Mozart. So I guess its the best of both worlds. :D

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Novskij 说：

"Metal is quite primitive compared with the stuff Mozart has composed. Esthetically you could say it is on a same level, but Mozart knew much better what he was doing and controlled the art much better than any metal composer. There are some bands getting there, tho. Diablo Swing Orchestra was really impressive. Therion's Secret of The Runes. Even Dimmu Borgir's mid-period albums have some impressive moments." - sorry but Gorguts and Morbid Angel are much stronger than the bands you mentioned, and they have classical influences, Morbid Ange's "Blessed are the sick" was dedicated to Mozart, and Gorguts guitarist and vocalist, luc lemay, composes orchestral works and is also influenced by many old composers.

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Maste90 说：

he should revive has a zombie to compose new things

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LordRama 说：

"All the modern music genres can be tracked back to classical music." Eh? I was under the impression that most modern forms of American popular music could be traced back to African sources.

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Hi-Im-Elzy 说：

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE COME TO POLAND!

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Gandalf930 说：

I've got (at least) 6 CDs of Mozart's music. As soon as I have time I want to check them all. I just don't like those joyful melodies. Now this is an absurd. At the beginning I said that Mozart was a great artist but now it looks like I said something different. Anyway, it's good that we don't argue more.

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Seavas 说：

Mozart is seldom "impressive" at first listen, his incredibly subtle idiom was an acquired taste for me. I believe his greatest works are his mature piano concertos and operas, I recommend you check out the Piano Concertos Nos. 20 and 24 as well as Le Nozze di Figaro and Idomeneo - all serious contenders for the best works in their respective genre.

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Gandalf930 说：

@Seavas; The problem is that both of you do not understand my point. Anyway, I have already lost interest in this discussion as it is senseless, I have no time for writing long texts nor I do want you to change your mind by any means necessary. The time spent arguing here could be better used. As for me, I have a lot of work to do so time is precious. Although some thoughts came into my mind, I do not want to continue. If you REALLY want me to give some bands I know, you can check out Haggard, Ecthirion or the ones Antaeus enlisted, but I do not know if they will satisfy you. Certain Arcturus works are also interesting, but it is not a typically symphonic metal band. PS especially for you I have checked the sonata for piano n 11 K 331 and was not that impressed as I supposed I would be after reading your posts. Matter of taste? Anyway, I already don't care. @Antaeus; Evolution of music has nothing to do with the topic.

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MakeNine 说：

I love metal, but it can't be compared to classical music. You will only get laughed at.

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Seavas 说：

@Gandalf: Reductio ad absurdum is a brilliantly elegant way of refuting your argument, I see no logical fallacy in BugTomek's post – you claim he ignored your evidence, but what evidence did you bring to this discussion? You still haven't named a single metal band that uses classical devices or approaches classical music in terms of complexity and sophistication, the whole argument BugTomek attacked stands and falls with this evidence.

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Antaeus 说：

Eh they are discussing metal in Mozart's shoutbox :| Anyway, to put it simple. All the modern music genres can be tracked back to classical music. As for metal. metal evolved from rock. Rock evolved from rock'n'roll. Rock'n'roll came from country and rhythm and blues. Those genres have their history originated in Tin Pan Ally, who had composer such as George Gershwin(whose compositions can be best describted as classical/jazz/pop). From George Gershwin to modernism, romanticism and our friend Mozart :) --As for composition skills. Metal is quite primitive compared with the stuff Mozart has composed. Esthetically you could say it is on a same level, but Mozart knew much better what he was doing and controlled the art much better than any metal composer. There are some bands getting there, tho. Diablo Swing Orchestra was really impressive. Therion's Secret of The Runes. Even Dimmu Borgir's mid-period albums have some impressive moments.

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Gandalf930 说：

@BugTomek Using reductio ad absurdum along with ignoratio elenchi is not a proper way of discussing. Peace.

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kOrBa007 说：

Fuck,, trv, kvlt ´´!!!!

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Novskij 说：

His music is so up-beat, helps me alot. :-)

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BugTomek 说：

Gandalf930 you're almost right! classical music is a subset of metal BUT both classical music and metal music are subsets of hip-hop music. Why classical? Hip-hop guys don't write sonatas and nocturnes nor they use any of the classical techniques, but, oh yes, they sooooooooo can do that, and one day someone will do it! Thus classical music is definitely a subset of hip-hop. Fact! And metal is a subset of hip-hop music. Why? Because hip-hop is a black music and metal is a dark music. And what's darker than black? Nothing! Metal is definitely a subset of hip-hop. Peace!

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