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videodrone00
omg. metal on skin. and I thought he couldn't top himself in terms of dense bleakness.
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elcruusto
So I picked FAR and Black Marrow- both amazing pieces of work. Many tracks are archetypally very similar to ideas on By The Throat / Theory of Machines- but there are some new things as well and a couple of real standout moments, particularly on FAR. Also it's just great to see what he's doing as an artist- using the palette he's developed on his albums to make some money through commissions etc.
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xxxKillianxxx
can anyone recommend me anything similar to Music For Sad Children? i couldnt find anything like it
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elcruusto
All music has the dimension of time. What is music but sounds organised in time? I also noticed you used the word "frequency" which relates entirely to the speed at which sound moves over time. enough of that though. I think what you mean is, music that doesn't utilize a regular rhythmic pulse. But I think it is simplistic dense to suggest that the only thing which communicates emotion in music high frequency. If you want to be entirely unscientific about it, there can be far more than just three dimensions to music. Yes Industrial and noise music can be chaotic, but to assume that the music of Xenakis, Prévost, Rowe & the AMM guys or even Schaeffer, Stockhausen, Wishart, Jony Harrison, David Berezan etc is "NOISY" or "CHAOTIC" presents a profound misunderstanding of the amount of CONTROL and DETAIL that has gone into that music. It's absolutely fine to be a noise purist but just dont be a dick about it!
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TeatroAssente
im not idealizing 3 dimensional music here. but noise is in fact such a music like that. cause its about embracing 'chaos' in you. Therefore you can see yourself as a object and you can see in 3 dimensional way. rhythm is for the people who cant handle chaos in themselves. AMM, Xenakis, The New Blockaders, MEV, Thomas Ankersmit, Horatiu Radulescu, Sachiko M and so on. these are good examples for noise. now noise is beeing used as a toy to excrement superficial feelings... in a so called powerful and cathartic way. it might be for you, have fun with it, but this music is too narrow minded for me. im the purist here, i know that my behaviour sounds stupid but in the end: who cares.
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TeatroAssente
Powerful and cathartic music? good. well... i checked your profile. you only listen to music with 2 dimensions... (no ad hominem here) rhythm(instincs and impulses) and treble sounds(feelings thoughts) but actually music may have 3 dimensions, the third dimension is time. and music with rhythm lacks that dimenson. cause rhythm kills the freedom of sense of 'time' in music. music with a rhythm in it is all about anal pleasure. İts like shitting, peeing... all the same. catharsis is excrementing bad feelings isnt it? i dont judge anal pleasure here, but music with rhythm lacks purity, lacks 3 dimensional imagination. calling a 2 dimensional pretentious music powerful is... well you name it. all i feel from his music is someone is peeing his feelings... because he cant handle them in himself, he excrements them in a perfumed way. When you can handle the feelings in you: in other terms when you dont need rhythm in your music you catch purity and balance between 'time' and 'you'
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elcruusto
@ TeatroAssente and everyone else: I think if you judge Ben Frost purely on his credentials as a noise musician you miss the point completely and miss out on something really great. Yes, he uses noise- so did Trent Reznor and loads of other people far more "mainstream" than the Frostmeister- but the "whole" that he carves it into is (unlike Prurient or whaever) is instinctively communicative in terms of the emotion it gives to the listener. To dismiss this powerful and cathartic music as hipster music seems to me quite narrow minded. This aint exactly catwalk shit, right? This is challenging, confrontational and uncompromising music made by some guy who lives in a mountain hut north of Reykjavik. It takes influence from loads of different things, noise being one of them- and personally I don't give a flying monkey-cunt whether this is "noise music" or not.
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whalleywhat
I'd say this is more like electroacoustic composition meets something like Mogwai. By The Throat could be the soundtrack to a major film and a lot of people probably wouldn't bat an eyelash. It's reminiscent of those Trent Reznor & Atticus Ross soundtracks, albeit with the intensity ratcheted up a fair amount.
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_Halleluhwah
''noise is about the melancholy of bringing back the illusion of meaningful life'' why is this so funny
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mortauxvaches_
I really like Ben Frost's work, but I also agree partially with TeatroAssente (couldn't agree more with the perfume). People seem to not appreciate when someone criticize their 'idols'. At least Teatro's 'negative' commentary offers more than 'cool', 'great stuff', 'amazing sounds'.
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TeatroAssente
you know nu-metal? good. do you remember how disgusting it is? i still do. Ben Frost is nu-noise, its even more irritating. noise is about the melancholy of bringing back the illusion of meaningful life. Ben Frost is noise music without any content, motive, method... and more importantly... this music has no opposite to fight against. noise is about giving a inner, emotional fight against something. even though its about giving a fight, noise never tries to win, as a motive, the goal of noise aesthetic is reaching to the 'zero'. They were doing it 20 years before of 'Fight Club'. Ben Frost vacuumed the content of the noise, the soul of noise, and revived it like a zombie. clothed it with hipster clothes, sprayed expensive perfumes all around, putted a good looking hat, and represented like a pop music. i know that i sound like a purist but still, Ben Frost is very superficial bullshit. nothing more nothing less.
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Dr_MoonOrGun
If anyone has the Ben Frost + Bara Yoon tracks, it would be super cool if you'd be willing to share them. And I think Mr. Frost IS working on something new.
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railpresureflip
What the fuck, why would Ben NOT play in Melbourne?! He was fucking born in the same suburb I lived in!
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xxxKillianxxx
Can anyone recommend me anything similar to Music For Sad Children? Thats the only stuff I like from this artist..
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