Avantasia

Quispiam 说：

Exactly. I could never be in a power metal band for long, it's a very limited genre and you need other influences to keep it interesting - and that's the same with all genres. I can completely understand Sammet for wanting to try other things, and I don't mind it if the reason is he wants to, and not that he wants money.

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Lionheartattack 说：

It's hard to believe that all his music is "more commercial" nowadays if he doesn't want to do it, if he only is in it for the money. It's the other way around. He's taking awful risks following his own will, because him changing direction means there will always be people thinking Edguy and Avantasia get worse or "sell out" even. I for one think they're worse than before just because Sammet himself seems to be a little bored of power metal. I understand though. That music seems to be pretty limited - no wonder some bands slide away from that direction. I can't believe anyone can stay interested in making only one music style decade after decade. Musicians just grow tired and try to invent something new, or at least jump out of their former box so to say. Sammet is doing just that. His own music taste seems to be "more commercial" these days as he is now making "more commercially sounding" something. Pop hard rock?

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Quispiam 说：

Or maybe you could try seeing past shallowness, going into, you know, the music and the lyrics? It feels to me as if you already made your mind and never actually bothered to listen to the album.

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Enforceris 说：

Riiight, that's why he created songs like Lost in Space, Carry me Over, Cry just a little.....and why he brought Edguy down to pitiful levels with albums like Rocket Ride. Certainly as nothing to do with money at all,obviously...|| as for how these two can be connected? Easy! By rewriting all other songs(not much of rewrite needed, tho, just change a few lines)

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Quispiam 说：

Wait what? How can "Return to Avantasia" or "Dancing With Tears in My Eyes" be connected to Scarecrow in anyway? As Lionheartattack said, the music comes from Sammet's heart. It'sobviously not made by anyone thinking "this will sell".

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Enforceris 说：

@Lionheartattack |(luckily... those who have tried it mostly fail. Sonata Arctica - Unia)| Oh no you did not.... SA's Unia and everything after Unia = MASSIVE WIN.

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Enforceris 说：

@Butlar Not to you. TO a certain other person who tends to think that just because i do not think that "lost in space is best thing after sliced bread", I must be an ugly bearded viking guy who hates everything that does not have power.|| @Quispiam| Everyone knows that. However lyrics can be rewritten(not to mention that its a lot easier to rewrite lyrics of scarecrow, were songs only connect slightly, than it would be in MOI&II where songs tell a clear story), and in that order as I wrote, Scarepop flows a lot more smoothly than in original one. Mostly because the songs that fracking destroy anything good in Scarecrow are gone.

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Lionheartattack 说：

Lol, no? :D Really? Since what Avantasias had stories? -.- Anyway, thumbs up for the quality discussion there has been going on below. But is it somehow wrong to do more commercial sounding material if the musician really wants to do it? I don't like this basic bland rock nearly as much as some traditional / power metal, but still I think musicians should do music they can be proud of themselves. I don't even think The Scarecrow is bad or anything, I'd be very sorry if I did. It's got a huge range of different music styles, but yes, the fusion side is lacking (luckily... those who have tried it mostly fail. Sonata Arctica - Unia). It's honest music by Sammet. That should be enough for everyone. After all, you don't have to listen to it, not to speak of bash it continuously, if you don't like it. I don't believe in genre limitations and thus sell-outs anyway. Thought of there being genres just narrows our thinking about what kind of music there is possible to be.

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Quispiam 说：

About that new tracklist... Any of you ever noticed that The Scarecrow has a story...?

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Butlar 说：

"And, awww, did I hurt your frail little feelings, by NOT liking Scarcepop? Sorry for not agreeing with the mass opinion you belong in, little guy... :< " If you said that to me I cant quite understand what you mean... Or you didint get what I meant(after reading my post I can see that it is hard to understand[The *changing subject *was propably bad idea]). What I meant was that I like The Scarecrow as you had built it, not as it is now.

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Enforceris 说：

@tamelessheart || Correction - one simple person and about a dozen of faggots who can't understand what "ARGUMENTED OPINION" Means. And, awww, did I hurt your frail little feelings, by NOT liking Scarcepop? Sorry for not agreeing with the mass opinion you belong in, little guy... :<

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tamelessheart 说：

none is "mocking it". is just one simple faggot.

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Butlar 说：

@Enforceris: I agree with the tracklist, it should've been as you build it. Thank god I can make playlists. :D *changing subject* Personally I like The Scarecrow and cant figure out why everyone is mocking it, it's great album.

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TheMusicalVito 说：

Andre Matos is confirmed for next two albums!

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Last_in_Line 说：

Yeah I'm the problem :D

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HarukaEX 说：

Tobbias Sammet Rocks \,,/ , Avantasia Rulez \o/

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Enforceris 说：

@Last_in_Line | Whatever I am trying to do, it does not include you, obviously. AS you have already proved that its impossible to have a constructive discussion with you. :)

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Last_in_Line 说：

Why don't you just publish a paper on the subject, hm? Last FM's word count restriction is obviously holding you back. I for once see no reason to repeat one and the same position in numerous post, and you're obiously in dire need of attention. Or are you trying to convince yourself that Scarecrow is shit, 'cos it doesn't live up to YOUR expectations and musical taste? It's taking you too long, dude..

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