Why the huge love or Windowlicker?

- joycey22 说...
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- 2006年 5月 9日, 19:40
Why the huge love or Windowlicker?

I have been listening to the tunes of RDJ for about two months now and one thing keeps niggling me.
Why the huge love for Come to Daddy and Windowlicker?
Windowlicker in its own right is very good, not a huge fan of Come To Daddy, but my point is some of his other tunes and ep's are SO much better. Like the recent Chosen Lords and all the Analords besides and the masterpiece that is Selected Ambient Works 85-92, Xtal and Heliosphan in particuluar!
But hey anything that gets people to listen to Aphex Twin has to be good, right?

I've always got about thirty tracks on the go. Some haven't been touched for ages I know they're are good- they're just waiting

[quote][b][user]joycey22[/user][/b] 说： I have been listening to the tunes of RDJ for about two months now and one thing keeps niggling me. Why the huge love for Come to Daddy and Windowlicker? Windowlicker in its own right is very good, not a huge fan of Come To Daddy, but my point is some of his other tunes and ep's are SO much better. Like the recent Chosen Lords and all the Analords besides and the masterpiece that is Selected Ambient Works 85-92, Xtal and Heliosphan in particuluar! But hey anything that gets people to listen to Aphex Twin has to be good, right?[/quote]

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- [已删除用户] 说...
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- 2006年 5月 10日, 17:59
I don't think it's so much loved, but probably appears popular because it was one of the more commercially promoted singles/EPs. Same case with Come to Daddy. In my opinion neither can really be classified as "typical Aphex Twin", which makes me think a large majority of the listeners aren't really RDJ fans as such. Not saying fans don't listen to those two tracks, but the reason why they've been bolstered up onto the top 20 list is probably because they have additional support from people who aren't normally Aphex Twin listeners.

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] 说： I don't think it's so much loved, but probably appears popular because it was one of the more commercially promoted singles/EPs. Same case with Come to Daddy. In my opinion neither can really be classified as "typical Aphex Twin", which makes me think a large majority of the listeners aren't really RDJ fans as such. Not saying fans don't listen to those two tracks, but the reason why they've been bolstered up onto the top 20 list is probably because they have additional support from people who aren't normally Aphex Twin listeners. [/quote]

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- addefinnr 说...
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- 2006年 5月 11日, 1:10
It's the videoclips that made the songs that popular. Chris Cunningham did some awesome work there. Both clips were definately inviting to watch again. And again. And maybe show your friends. And their parents. And the dog. And your girlfriend: "No your behind isnt that big, no you dont have that much hair on your face...".

Come To Daddy and Windowlicker are two totally different songs, but that goes for RDJ's whole oevre: each album is really different from the other and that's why he just can't bore me ;].

[quote][b][user]addefinnr[/user][/b] 说： It's the videoclips that made the songs that popular. Chris Cunningham did some awesome work there. Both clips were definately inviting to watch again. And again. And maybe show your friends. And their parents. And the dog. And your girlfriend: "No your behind isnt that big, no you dont have that much hair on your face...". Come To Daddy and Windowlicker are two totally different songs, but that goes for RDJ's whole oevre: each album is really different from the other and that's why he just can't bore me ;].[/quote]
由 addefinnr 在 2006年 5月 24日, 23:29 编辑

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- addefinnr 说...
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- 2006年 5月 11日, 1:11
It's the videoclips that made the songs that popular. Chris Cunningham did some awesome work there. Both clips were definately inviting to watch again. And again. And maybe show your friends. And their parents. And the dog. And your girlfriend: "No your behind isnt that big, no you dont have that much hair on your face...".

Come To Daddy and Windowlicker are two totally different songs, but that goes for RDJ's whole oevre: each album is really different from the other and that why he just can't bore me ;].

And hurrah for Opera not showing me I posted :P

[quote][b][user]addefinnr[/user][/b] 说： [s]It's the videoclips that made the songs that popular. Chris Cunningham did some awesome work there. Both clips were definately inviting to watch again. And again. And maybe show your friends. And their parents. And the dog. And your girlfriend: "No your behind isnt that big, no you dont have that much hair on your face...". Come To Daddy and Windowlicker are two totally different songs, but that goes for RDJ's whole oevre: each album is really different from the other and that why he just can't bore me ;].[/s] And hurrah for Opera not showing me I posted :P[/quote]

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- SuperXXX 说...
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- 2006年 5月 19日, 9:36
Windowlicker is quite cool, but it definitely doesn't deserve title of
Aphex Twin's best song. I dunno why everybody's so obsessed with it.
It's first Aphex's song I heard, and it sounded so cacophonic and chaotic
at first listen. Now I can somewhat enjoy it, but not as much to make it my top track.
Come with daddy is however insane wild track that you just have to love no matter what.

So if anybody of you bumped here and is interested in Aphex Twin, but haven't listened
any of its stuff yet, avoid Windowlicker being your first track to listen, because it isn't
as good. Instead try out his ambient works and "I care because you do". If you like those, you
like Aphex Twin. Otherwise, you won't like him.

[quote][b][user]SuperXXX[/user][/b] 说： Windowlicker is quite cool, but it definitely doesn't deserve title of Aphex Twin's best song. I dunno why everybody's so obsessed with it. It's first Aphex's song I heard, and it sounded so cacophonic and chaotic at first listen. Now I can somewhat enjoy it, but not as much to make it my top track. Come with daddy is however insane wild track that you just have to love no matter what. So if anybody of you bumped here and is interested in Aphex Twin, but haven't listened any of its stuff yet, avoid Windowlicker being your first track to listen, because it isn't as good. Instead try out his ambient works and "I care because you do". If you like those, you like Aphex Twin. Otherwise, you won't like him.[/quote]

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- poltek 说...
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- 2006年 5月 19日, 22:09
it is because it is the most popular... Considering there's a video for it, and that the video has been allowed on the MTV network.

Most people who like this perticular track are not open-minded enough to enjoy his other works, even though they may be a hell of a lot better.. It's just the way it is. - Majority of people only like simple music, the music they can predict, if any of those typical expectations they have on any track they listen to doesn't arise, they blow it off as "wierd".

[quote][b][user]poltek[/user][/b] 说： it is because it is the most popular... Considering there's a video for it, and that the video has been allowed on the MTV network. Most people who like this perticular track are not open-minded enough to enjoy his other works, even though they may be a hell of a lot better.. It's just the way it is. - Majority of people only like simple music, the music they can predict, if any of those typical expectations they have on any track they listen to doesn't arise, they blow it off as "wierd".[/quote]

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- louman 说...
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- 2006年 5月 20日, 6:37
I think Windowlicker is definitely one of the "best" songs by RDJ... it's just that most of his bigger fans tend not to listen to it as much simply because it's one of his rather *unique* songs. In other words, the more you listen to Aphex Twin, the more you start learning to love certain things about his style, and he hasn't produced very many songs like Windowlicker, so it's like his fans don't identify with it as much as they do with his more distinctly characteristic songs. That's my theory, anyway.

[quote][b][user]louman[/user][/b] 说： I think Windowlicker is definitely one of the "best" songs by RDJ... it's just that most of his bigger fans tend not to listen to it as much simply because it's one of his rather *unique* songs. In other words, the more you listen to Aphex Twin, the more you start learning to love certain things about his style, and he hasn't produced very many songs like Windowlicker, so it's like his fans don't identify with it as much as they do with his more distinctly characteristic songs. That's my theory, anyway.[/quote]

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- SuperXXX 说...
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- 2006年 5月 30日, 14:24
Windowlicker's definitely if not most popular then among most popular
Aphex's songs. Many people who like Windowlicker are definitely some
mainstream fanatics that actually have no real interest in aphex twin, because if they do they would know that Windowlicker's, although cool song, not as good as his other stuff. They saw video on MTV and/or probably heard stuff on radio and then:"OMG, it's some new cool R&B"
I love it!" Windowlicker's definitely awesome and I love it no matter what, and video too, but isn't his best song. Everyone who heard at least 2 or 3 albums of Aphex will agree.

[quote][b][user]SuperXXX[/user][/b] 说： Windowlicker's definitely if not most popular then among most popular Aphex's songs. Many people who like Windowlicker are definitely some mainstream fanatics that actually have no real interest in aphex twin, because if they do they would know that Windowlicker's, although cool song, not as good as his other stuff. They saw video on MTV and/or probably heard stuff on radio and then:"OMG, it's some new cool R&B" I love it!" Windowlicker's definitely awesome and I love it no matter what, and video too, but isn't his best song. Everyone who heard at least 2 or 3 albums of Aphex will agree. [/quote]

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- [已删除用户] 说...
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- 2006年 6月 25日, 14:03
Windowlicker deserves it's title in my opinion, for the music alone. I adore it. Come To Daddy is... okay. Without doubt not his best work.

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] 说： Windowlicker deserves it's title in my opinion, for the music alone. I adore it. Come To Daddy is... okay. Without doubt not his best work.[/quote]

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- syntheticregard 说...
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- 2006年 6月 30日, 5:00
come to daddy i think expresses a wide range of what rdj does. it has the acid tracks, teh ambient track, the smashed up messy tracks. it's loved not because of it's advertisement and stuff, but because it's so fucking good. it's definately one of my favorites.

[quote][b][user]syntheticregard[/user][/b] 说： come to daddy i think expresses a wide range of what rdj does. it has the acid tracks, teh ambient track, the smashed up messy tracks. it's loved not because of it's advertisement and stuff, but because it's so fucking good. it's definately one of my favorites. [/quote]

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- joycey22 说...
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- 2006年 6月 30日, 17:09
In reply to Syntheticregard i am sorry for not being specific enough. I meant Come To Daddy the track not the Ep, i also love IZ-US and Funny Little Man etc. and also think it has a brillliant range of Richards tunes on it.

I've always got about thirty tracks on the go. Some haven't been touched for ages I know they're are good- they're just waiting

[quote][b][user]joycey22[/user][/b] 说： In reply to Syntheticregard i am sorry for not being specific enough. I meant Come To Daddy the track not the Ep, i also love IZ-US and Funny Little Man etc. and also think it has a brillliant range of Richards tunes on it.[/quote]

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- Oirt 说...
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- 2006年 7月 5日, 5:47
I consider myself fairly versed in RDJ and while I agree Windowlicker's popularity is what it is because of it's mainstream airplay/suitability, that in no means takes away in it's strengths as a song. While it isn't typical Aphex, it is by no means bad because of that, or beacuse of it's popular acceptance. It's a fantastic song, first one I heard, and one of my favourites even now.

[quote][b][user]Oirt[/user][/b] 说： I consider myself fairly versed in RDJ and while I agree Windowlicker's popularity is what it is because of it's mainstream airplay/suitability, that in no means takes away in it's strengths as a song. While it isn't typical Aphex, it is by no means bad because of that, or beacuse of it's popular acceptance. It's a fantastic song, first one I heard, and one of my favourites even now.[/quote]

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- [已删除用户] 说...
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- 2009年 8月 14日, 13:49
they're both great songs, but by no means they are the best, and they dont deserve the hype the get. digeridoo is by far better than them.

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] 说： they're both great songs, but by no means they are the best, and they dont deserve the hype the get. digeridoo is by far better than them.[/quote]

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- The_Thodi 说...
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- 2010年 1月 27日, 20:49
in my opinion both come to daddy and windowlicker have really strong commercial sounds,
as for come to daddy it's that "darkparty" feeling or chaos or horror thing that caught peoples ears (at least that's what all ppl said I asked)
and windowlicker definitely has something ambient calm-like which is just awesome for "notaphexed"-people, same with me when I first heard it and a lot of people told me the same too
as already said by others, the videos got popular too (and are actually more interesting than the songs themselves...)

I have to admit, they aren't my favorite songs either... but it's all about commercialism...
I wouldn't dare saying that they get more hype than they deserve because it depends, we're still individual (at least I hope so)
it also depends whether you understand such kind of music or not, there are people crying while listening to grindcore (and not because of the pain in their ears xD)

since I make music myself I know if I'd release stuff that I like myself best, I would never get into business (and that's why I've released one song I just think is quite okay for me but received awesome feedback by others) because the simpler and less expressing music is, the easier people like it because they don't need to get used to it first, people also like clearly structured and beat-connected music, but as individuals we can listen to everything we want if we patiently listen...

as I said it's just my opinion...
greedz
thodi

[quote][b][user]The_Thodi[/user][/b] 说： in my opinion both come to daddy and windowlicker have really strong commercial sounds, as for come to daddy it's that "darkparty" feeling or chaos or horror thing that caught peoples ears (at least that's what all ppl said I asked) and windowlicker definitely has something ambient calm-like which is just awesome for "notaphexed"-people, same with me when I first heard it and a lot of people told me the same too as already said by others, the videos got popular too (and are actually more interesting than the songs themselves...) I have to admit, they aren't my favorite songs either... but it's all about commercialism... I wouldn't dare saying that they get more hype than they deserve because it depends, we're still individual (at least I hope so) it also depends whether you understand such kind of music or not, there are people crying while listening to grindcore (and not because of the pain in their ears xD) since I make music myself I know if I'd release stuff that I like myself best, I would never get into business (and that's why I've released one song I just think is quite okay for me but received awesome feedback by others) because the simpler and less expressing music is, the easier people like it because they don't need to get used to it first, people also like clearly structured and beat-connected music, but as individuals we can listen to everything we want if we patiently listen... as I said it's just my opinion... greedz thodi[/quote]

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- AphexCanada 说...
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- 2010年 2月 7日, 23:43
Both are nowhere near his best, But still good songs. I was very disappointed to see "Windowlicker" top of Warp's "Chosen" CD - Surely all Warp fans know Aphex has many, many better songs? Oh well. Rhubarb will always be my favourite song, As it is also my favourite song by any artist.

[quote][b][user]AphexCanada[/user][/b] 说： Both are nowhere near his best, But still good songs. I was very disappointed to see "Windowlicker" top of Warp's "Chosen" CD - Surely all Warp fans know Aphex has many, many better songs? Oh well. Rhubarb will always be my favourite song, As it is also my favourite song by any artist.[/quote]

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